My previous post and the publicity around the name of Cristiano De Angelis have uncovered a staggering number of testimonials from people throughout Asia. All of whom without exception had negative (sometimes very negative) things to say about the man and his behaviour1As an aside, the fact that he was able to so easily slip from one person to the next and leave such a trail of universally negative experiences, without anybody successfully connecting the dots until now, raises some serious question about the safety mechanisms built into Couchsurfing..
To clearly show that my friend’s incident in Kyoto is not an isolated claim, I have taken the liberty to gather all sourced testimonials posted on CS threads or in the comments to my original blog post, and copy them below in chronological order. People (understandably) concerned about the credibility of my sole voice may want to look through these: while they may not fall under criminal law, they all paint an unambiguously negative portrait of a rude, untrustworthy, sexually aggressive and deceitful individual.
There is also a clear evolution: as he gets farther from home (and, presumably, from people who may recognise him and report his behaviour to his friends and family), Mr. De Angelis becomes increasingly rude and aggressive in his encounters.
Every single quote comes with a link to the source and to the poster’s public Couchsurfing profile (every single one of them have themselves flawless profiles, sometimes totaling hundreds of positive reviews from visitors):
#1 – Faro, Portugal, mid-2011
I met this strange “person” same months ago in one meeting at Artistas as well.
I remember my sister was with me and said this guy started have a sexual conversation with her. Of course i spoke with the guy and he stop. But was not nice and bad example for my sister start hearing about couchsurfinf..
#2 – Bangkok, Thailand, late 2011
I hosted him one night in Bangkok and I had my first negative experience hosting this guy. His profile looked good with a lot of references. I felt uneasy the very first minute I met him but I tried to tell myself that i thought too much cus my previous CSer was terrific.
Luckily that nothing “that far” happened to me and you know what I did. He tried to talk sexually topic with me and i felt very uncomfortable. I had to tell him I am homosexual and not interested in guys!!! I didnt know what to do so I thought that might turn him off. I was alert the whole night cus I didnt trust him. He used my computer and Internet a lot, talked very loud on skype, made a mess in my apartment and bathroom. He also complained about the a/c, mattress and the floor. I wrote it clearly that I can only provide floor space and mattress and in the middle of the night he asked to sleep in the bed with me which of course I strongly said no.
After he left, talked to few friends that I was going to leave a negative comment for him. Before doing that, I wrote to two people in Europe who hosted him and left negative comment. They shared with me the bad experience. But the two hosts were men. So the experience was something about his rudeness and srtangeness. I then left him a negative comment. Later he must have seen the comment I left, he had been trying to call me day and night but I didn’t answer his phone because I did not want to speak with him. I assumed that he would ask me to change the comment as he did to one host in Germany. This host left him a negative comment and he called him asking him to change it which he refused. After that day & night with many calls from Cristiano, the net few days, I found that his profile with a lot of references was deleted.
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For the ignorance of being a good couch surfer like helping keep the place clean, respecting your host, taking care of your own bill and etc., I could try to deal with these things because people are raised differently but the only thing I feel that it is insecure and agaisnt the morality is that it concerns sexual harrasment. I did not like when this person tried to talk to me about the sexual topic and I had to try to change the subject. The funny thing was I felt something not right about it and I had to say that I am homosexual and not interested in men. I mentioned that more that one time because he was not certain if I meant it. During the night, he compained about the mattress and the floor that it was too hard for him to sleep (I put my couch condition in my profile. He should know what he can expect before sending me a resquest and shoul not complain about something you know in advance.) and then asked if he could sleep in the bed with me. Of course i firmly said no and it sounds like I had a cold hard leaving him sleep in a bad condition. I could not sleep the whole night. I thought about asking him to leave immediately at 3 am in the morning which I am sure some of you might support me doing this but let me tell you why I did not do it. I thought that if i made him angry or whatsoever, what harm might come to me? I was alone in my place in the middle of the night, and I took him into my place.
After he left, I talked to some friends on CS, and even wrote to two people who left negative comments asking for the experience they had with him. My friends encouraged me to leave a negative comment and I eventually did it. I thought well before I did it. Before accepting to host him, I read his profile and saw that most of the comments were positive. Thats why I hosted him. However, after seeing the negative comment I left, he called me so many times, all day and night. I did not answer because I knew what he would ask me and I did not want to talk to him anymore. One of his hosts who left a negative comment told me that he got a call from this person asking him to change the comment. Few days later, I found out that his profile was deleted.
#3 – Siem Reap, Cambodia, October 2011
Ohmygoodness! He sent me a couch request, and had I not been hosting someone else at the same time, I probably would have hosted him! We met for dinner one night, thankfully with a third person, and both of us were really put off by his arrogance, his racial comments (which he claimed were based on his extensive research funded by various governments), and his general demeanor. He had been in town for most of the day, but had not found a hotel and was still carrying around his bags that night. He asked again to surf with me, even though I had already clearly declined. Despite his being very rude and offensive, I am surprised that he would go so far as to assault another person. Despicable.
#4 – Kyoto, Japan – late December 2011
Masato Miki dealt with Cristiano De Angelis and very reluctantly hosted him. He blogged about it (in Japanese) at the time and described in great details how rude, pushy and unpleasant Mr. De Angelis was (I will try to post an exact translation of his posts later on).
#5 – Kyoto, Japan – late December 2011
Cristiano De Angelis sexually assaulted my friend M., as detailed in this post. For obvious reasons, M. wants to remain anonymous (but she does have a public CS profile and has hosted or met dozens of Couchsurfers without a single issue ever). Feel free to peruse my own public profile, instead.
Here is a copy of one of the first message she sent me, shortly after the encounter, when I noticed she seemed upset and inquired over Facebook about whether anything had happened with her Couchsurfing guest (I, and other friends, met with her in person shortly afterward, where she further confirmed the exact nature of the assault):
First of all, he came to Kyoto one day earlier as I said and called me many many times which annoyed me so much.
Because I was working all day long, I couldn’t answer his phone call and also it was from someone else, not him, who called me.
When I was back home, I wrote a message to him about the place and time to meet up.
On the next day, I was working all day long too. I got many phone calls again during I was working and annoyed me again.
then, when I was going to the meeting point, I got another call by stranger’s mobile. I said I was coming but he was shouting to ask when I would be there. It was big stress after my work because of his loud and angry voice.
I met him and brought him to home. After a while, we went out to my friend’s party and enjoyed the time there.
After we went home, I put FUTON for him on the floor and I went to my bed to sleep. All of sudden, he came into my bed. I refused it so many times, but he didn’t go out. Besides, he forced me to have sex with me although I refused it so many times too.
You know, with man’s power, women can’t do anything.
Also when I was sleeping, he undressed me and I think he took some picture because I remember the sound of camera when I wake up.
Next morning, I said to him to leave my place as soon as possible. but he was saying some thing to stay at my place. I was hurrying for work and left before him but he said he would also leave in 10 min.
After my work, it was around 23:00, he was still at my place.
I asked the reason why he was still there. He said he lost his ticket to go to Tokyo and thought I might have had one. but it was impossible to have it with me because I only saw it for like 10 seconds and returned it to him. I think it was just an excuse to keep staying at my place.
In anyway, I asked him to leave from my place because now it was clear that I didn’t have his ticket.
but he refused it and asked me to stay here on that night too.
He said he prepared dinner and wine for me although there weren’t dinner nor wine after I looked around my room and knew it was all lie and excuse.
He kept saying all excuse he could think of, but I didn’t want to hear it and asked him to leave as soon as possible.
Then he took his things and left, but just before he left, he asked me not to write any negative reference.
I refused it of course because he deserves to get negative reference.
I put it on his page and he also wrote negative referent to me too. It’s so disgusting because I didn’t do anything wrong.
Now he deleted his profile page and I think he will create another one soon.
That’s all what happened to me
#6 – Tokyo, Japan, January 2012
I just had the nightmare couch surfing of my life!
This guy asked me to host for a night and supposed to leave in the next day but never left. I trusted him and gave him the keys of my place. I arrived home after the third night and discovered he brought some girl he found in the street to to have sex in my place. He also offered the champagne he found in my refrigerator to serve to this girl. Also never brought back home a fruit or a piece of bread. Used all my toiletry products, Just lived like it was his own house. Complained about my sofa bed was too hard, the air conditioner was not in the temperature he liked, my pillows was too soft. He don’t drink tap water and empty my mineral water container and my wifi signal was not that good. When i asked to he leave my place at 4am in the morning he ridiculously asked me he could stay till morning and offered me US$10 ! to pay for everything. Totally selfish and no sense. I will think twice before host anyone from couch surfing again, The Park Hyatt and the Hilton is just at the corner!He’s just deleted his profile! Shameless
Anderson Katayama [original post]
#7 – Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia – January 2012
I actually hosted this guy for a night with my two other housemates and yes, we can actually attest to what was written with him being delusional and eccentric and incredibly strange and sometimes rude. Thankfully, I’ve spoke to Abbey (Ambassador of KL) after Cristiano deleted his profile and I was highly suspicious of him but without any real evidence that this guy is a sociopath.
He didn’t try anything on me or on my housemates though he did mention that he’d marry me someday when he becomes the President of Brazil. We were already very suspicious and didn’t leave him alone at home or anything. We slept with our doors closed.
There are about 4-5 more testimonials (including 2 positive/neutral ones) that were posted in the comments to my original post. However none of them provided any identifying information or way to verify their accuracy. I have contacted their respective authors by emails. I will update this list if/when confirmation comes in (or if any other story surfaces, which wouldn’t surprise me at this point).
PS: while all the testimonials above have been copied without the slightest alteration, their presence in this post does not in any way imply that their authors necessarily condone the full content of my original post and the strong wording of my accusation. I alone take full responsibility for the claim of criminal conduct by Cristiano De Angelis that I outlined in it.
Update (01/18/2012):
Because this is just too incredible to let it stay buried in the comments, allow me to quote Mr. Cristiano De Angelis himself, ostensibly defending his behaviour in Kyoto:
Ok then that is enough. Let say all then (did not want say it before because I am a gentleman) because I am starting to be fed up with this story and with all of you that behave like little children and maybe you jealous of me.
1)She really liked me from the beginning and she asked me to go to bed with her!
She said never had a brazilian boyfriend and she knows brazilian are latin lover and powerful sex machine and could not sleep with me in another room because was thinking all the time about me. Keep in mind I am also young and quite attractive so that drove her crazy. So i did make her happy and did not to be unpolite and say not to a girl!
Do not know what happened in the morning in her mind, maybe she felt ashmed and so took my train thicket to make me feel guilty of something … maybe to make me feel guilty that I am so attractive??
2)Now,how many of you had a host or has been hosted by someone you felt attractive and had a night stand? I think more or less all of you, couchsuring is real life like meeting someone out, sometimes you feel attraction with someone and lot of people want and go for it but in the following morning maybe they feel hembarassed because in their culture is not cummon to behave like that. One day when I will go back to Japan ( and I will because I like Japanaise girl), I am sure she will host me again because I sow into her eyes from the fist minute how much she was attracted by my phisical appareance. I know all the girls usually act like that…Cristiano de Angelis [original comment] [Logged IP: 87.19.221.162 (Rome, Italy)]
With such a defense, who needs accusers?
Update (01/19/2012):
#8 – Faro, Portugal – August 2011
Ele e horrivel!!! Nunca mais!!!
He has lack of manners and verrrrrry rude attitude. Arrogante!
Fortunatelly, I Did’t have sexual problem with him.Ele nao me falou,a mas parecia querer ficar mais umas noites no meu lugar. No dia que ele teve de sair(eu falei pra ele que teve que sair e ele nao pode ficar mais commigo.), as todas coisas deles estava deixadas no meu quarto quando eu voltei a tarde.
Mas consegui mandar ele fora do meu lugar, mas tive uma experiencia ruim.
Puta que pariu. E ele!Another more thing I want to say, he used my room very dirty.
He is very weired person. I’ve never met a arrogant person like him. I think he doesn’t have any respect for other people or country. He always talked loudlly bad things about Portugal in Faro.
He just abuse CS.Kaori Takegami (via email)
Translation of the Portuguese text (by Prabal):
He is horrible, never again
He told me no, but seemed to want to stay a few more nights at my place.On the day he had to leave (I told him I had to leave and he can not stay with me more.)- All the things one was left in my room when I came back that afternoon.
But I managed to send him out of my place, but I had a bad experience.
God damn it. And him!
As mentioned above, Mr. De Angelis is well aware of the existence of these accusations and this post (in fact, my logs show that he obsessively checks this blog for updates and comments). Recently, he posted in a few places (this blog included) a list of alleged positive references from his previous Couchsurfing profiles (that he had himself deleted), revealing information that only he had access to, with the nice side-effect of unambiguously proving that he is, indeed, the author of those other comments.
If there is one thing that has become clear from this story (and the dozen testimonials above), it would be that Mr. De Angelis’ word should not be taken at face value. I sent each Couchsurfer a short note, trying to give only few details on the story so as to not unduly bias their opinion, while imparting a sense that a quick and truthful reply was important. I was only mildly surprised when the replies started coming back:
So far, nine of the people listed in his positive references replied to my message. All these people have well-established CS profiles, with many positive references from unrelated parties and I have no reason to doubt their word.
Out of these nine, one person (Ricardo) unreservedly vouched for his character based on his longstanding relationship with him (in fact, they have been in close contact ever since all this broke out). Four other (Radostina, Leo, Mariana and Anita [who does not want her CS profile disclosed]) stated that the reference was accurate, that they had met him (however briefly or long ago) and that he had behaved in a polite and unremarkable way with them.
Unlike negative testimonials, I am not quoting the above five people’s “non-negative” messages for one major reason (beside trying to keep the length of this post manageable): I absolutely refuse to acknowledge Mr. De Angelis’s twisted arithmetic of character references, where one can offset a few deeply negative references by some positive ones. This is not how things work: being a halfway-decent human being some time, does not allow one to behave like a scumbag the rest of the time. What your mum or best friend has to say about you when you are on your best behaviour is not relevant: it is what you do to people when you think nobody is watching, that matters. At any rate, all these positive references are widely available (here for example), since Mr. De Angelis has made them the central element of his defense.
More importantly, here is what the remaining four had to say about their “positive” reference and Cristiano De Angelis:
Mochan wrote:
私は、掲示板で問題になっている男性と、その他のＣＳメンバーと一緒に数日間日本国内を旅行しました。
とりたてて公にするような大きな問題はありませんでした。
私は、彼よりもわがままなＣＳメンバーと会ったことがあります。
私は、彼よりも、お金に汚いＣＳメンバーに会ったことがあります。
そして私は、彼よりも何十倍も無礼で、腹の立つＣＳメンバーに会ったことがあります。私は、思います。
彼に関して、みなさんが様々なことを書かれていますが、この件は、Couchsurfingのルール改定や運営改善、この地球に生きている全ての人間の成長のチャンスだと。
他の人間と明るい未来を信じる方向で、こういった問題に取り組むのか？
それとも、いわゆる常識の枠組みの中からこぼれてしまう人を異端として排斥するのか？
Couchsurfingというヴァーチャル・コミュニティーの総意が、どんな判断を下すのか、わかりませんが、彼のみの問題や一般論・感情論の視野狭窄に陥ることなく、十分な情報収集（人間行動学・心理学など）と、長期的視野による判断で、Couchsurfingの究極のmission達成が、成し遂げられることを願っています。
(I will post a translation later: the gist of it is that Cristiano wasn’t exactly forthcoming in presenting Mochan’s “positive” review)
Aron wrote:
I hosted him despite two negative references which appeared pretty harmless and I felt that otherwise he seemed to fit the other descriptions that people had left of him. He was a nice guy and filled with what I would consider ‘positive’ energy, however in hindsight he was acting a little inappropriate around my 22 year old female cousin who I was also hosting at the time. He was charming enough and didn’t cross what I would have considered ‘the line’ but he definitely made her uncomfortable a few times and at one point came into my bedroom where she was sleeping and got into bed with her and tried to kiss her. At the time I just considered this a cultural misunderstanding as I know that people from southern Europe and South America are a bit more persistent with women so it didn’t really bother me but, at the same time, having met the guy myself I could see how the right circumstances and cultural differences could certainly have caused an inappropriate situation as he is definitely a bit pushy. Ultimately however, I’m quite surprised by the accusation and don’t think that he is a ‘bad person’ but I suppose I could be wrong.
Flavio wrote:
I just read your blog in regards of Cristiano De Angelis.
I felt shocked because I met him more that once and I hosted him one time before having a fight with him. I am shocked because I hosted him in february 2011 and despite he deserved a negative reference I didn’t gave him.
My brief account:
1)I met him during a cultural walk of Venice and I noticed him annoying women because he asked them to go out having a drink with them after 10 minutes he met them, and I suggested that was not the right behaviour since he would not have got have chance of getting to know a girl having such a wild approach.
2) I met him during a drink organized by couchsurfers in Venice, nothing to say, he seemed just proud of his country and mocking others.
3) After he wrote me many times, I allowed him to be host at my place in Venice one night in February 2011 during the carneval.
I told him he needed to leave before 15 next day because I was expecting 4 friend for the big celebration. We went to a party the night before and he forced a girl to kiss him (she was drunk) and them she left. Nothing happened then. Next day he begged me to leave him my keys and I gave them to him on the condition to be given back before 17 pm because I had a big celebration and dinner with my frinds (it was the best day of carnival, they were coming from far awat). He met with a girl he knew and begged me to allow him to come to my place once he had persuaded her to stay.
I am a very direct person and I told him that he needed to give me my keys before 18 otherwise I would have thrown him into a canal (I spent all day with my friends). I had to wait until 21, calling him 20 times and threatened him again and again for meeting him and having my keys back. His plan was to bring that girl to my place, he begged me many many times to give him the chance to stay alone with her. I heard months after that he managed to take that girl to another couchsrfing’s home and have sex with her, because he wrote that he was worried that his availability helped him to get her.
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Actually I never left him any positive reference. I should have given him a negative when he behaved in a way I found unacceptable.
I yelled at him and told him never ever to try to contact me again,
but no negative reference.Yes you can quote my words and link my profile, no problem. Some things are simply more important than privacy.
Julie wrote:
Although I can’t say I’m not fully surprised at Cristiano’s questionable behavior, I did write that review. In truth I would never host him again, and maybe should have been more honest about that. So no, it didn’t reflect my true feelings. I’m sorry. It sounds bad now, but I guess I just didn’t want to hurt his feelings. He didn’t do anything “wrong” that I can put my finger on, but I got an unsettling feeling from his presence. It’s nothing I could really describe in a review anyways, I guess. He was just intense and abrasive and it was difficult communicating with him about the exact duration of his stay (I planned on one night and he ended on staying two). I was curious as to why he deleted his profile. . . I hope that helps! Sorry for not being more honest with the review. I just don’t know how to put into words why it was an uncomfortable experience. I vow to write honest reviews from now on. It’s important for the community. I’m sorry again for not being truthful. Please let me know if you have any further questions.
There you have it. All these “positive” reviews that Cristiano De Angelis is currently flaunting around, as if they somehow cancelled the barrage of negative testimonials…
Although I have generally stopped updating this page with each new communication I receive about him, Cristiano de Angelis is still very much alive and hasn’t given up on harassing females, the world around.
I get on average two to three emails a month, from women he approached with more or less forcefulness, usually trying to get them to stay at his house with crazy stories of his accomplishments in Brazil and pictures of his “family”. So much so, that his would-be victims end up googling his name and find this page.
From the look of it, he is operating from the south of France (Marseilles), but is not past travelling to other parts of Europe to harass random women (also spotted in Belgium and Italy, among others).
Update 11/27/2012:
Countless recent testimonies have placed Cristiano de Angelis in Berlin (trying to con his way into yet another “research student” position), where he has managed to get hosted through CouchSurfing again (thanks to yet another fake profile) and be a general nuisance to the local population. In fact, he has been so aggressively pursuing local women (his usual “stalk anything that moves” technique when in Europe) that, by complete coincidence, he ended up pulling one of his stalkerish douchebag move on a friend of mine from Kyoto (who only realised who he was, when googling his name, after one weird email too many).
Since I don’t quite believe in coincidence, I can only imagine the staggering number of women he must approach on a regular basis…
Want to read more ranting and observations about this case? Have some objections on the morality/legality of these accusations? Right this way please!
OH MY GOD!!! I am Ana I live in SPAIN, GALICIA. I received some weird messeges from this CRISTIANO BRAZILIAN GUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! On the month of MArch 2011 and April 2011 He invited me to a private party at BAIONA!! And after I said politely no, he wanted to come to OURENSE to meet me up!!
I COPY PASTE ONE BY ONE the messeges I had with him, he did seem weird!!!
HERE ARE THE POSTS!! I JUST COPIED FROM MY PROFILE THIS GUY WAS DOING THIS STUFF since 2011 in SPAIN! WHo knows waht else has happened! that has not come to light!
from Cristiano Angelis (Lagos, Faro, Portugal)
sent March 29th, 2011 – 8:47 pm
replied Mar 31, 2011 12:11 pm
Hello Ana,
I hope things are going well with you.
My name is Cristiano De Angelis. I am a professor of Economics
and a Planning Analyst in the Planning Ministry in Brazil. Last July I received a license for completing my PhD. in Knowledge Management at Padova University. But the course did not suit me and then i decided to change to Minho University, Department of Information Science, four months ago.
Since last week, I am living in Baiona beach, in order to concentrate on my Thesis and I usually go to Portugal on Friday to meet my advisor.
Well, Me, Raul (YANQUICHARRUA in Baiona CS Group) and my flatmate Page Gottheim decided to do a Brazilian dinner tomorrow night and i would love to invite you. Actually, we invited 8 people.
If you want, you can bring something to drink. Anyway, i will prepare Caipirinha, a typical drink in Brazil.
By the way, do you have skpye or msn? I would love to make friends in Spain.
Ps. My place is in front of the Parador, number 9, 3E.
please, confirm your presence.
a brazilian hug,
Cris
to Cristiano Angelis (Lagos, Faro, Portugal)
sent March 31st, 2011 – 12:11 pm
Hi Cristiano:
It´s kind of strange and cool at the same time, to receive CS invitations to a private Party, I must tell you I don´t even live near BAOINA beach, I live in Ourense, you must be confused of City, or else. But thanks in advanced for the excentric invitation if there is no kind of confusion.
Your dinner seems great, I love Brazil and in fact a good friend of mine is brazlian and I learned portuguese with him. I won´t go to your party all though, because it seems weird. I am very honest with you, but a girl is not crossing the entire provice to go to a Brazilian party of people that all though they are COUCH SURFERS are not making a formal or normal request, some thing that is not created as an event, all though it must be a very intersting one, sorry for being paranoid, must be my colombian background.
Have a beautifull day Cristiano, and good luck with your studies.
Muita obrigada por sua invitaciao.
Ana
from Cristiano Angelis (Lagos, Faro, Portugal)
sent April 12th, 2011 – 8:15 pm
Hello Ana,
How are you?
I am going to Ourense with a Professor tomorrow at 1030am. Before going to Ourense we go to a Conference in Laias. I will arrive in the lunchtime in Ourense.
do you have plans for the afternoon? How about a coffee?
What is your phone?
kisses
Cris
WE HAVE TO STOP THIS RAPIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! After this last request I never replied to him again.
Hi! I am afraid the real name of the guy is not Cr. de A. The behavior of your hero reminds me so much a brazilian man I hosted some years ago. He used different names and fake profiles for surfing. Too many coincedences: rarest moron, call himself brazilian, travelling a lot and seeking sex-contacts.
And I am afraid real professor de A. is existing and may suffer from your post.
@Louis: you are very right to point out that possibility… However it wouldn’t quite add up: all people so far have recognised him in his website’s pictures (e.g. http://u1.ipernity.com/21/64/14/12056414.0f8ac326.jpg), which is also the one I used in my other post, and matches the ones taken by one of the CSer who hosted him:
http://couchsurfingkyoto.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-387.html
Unless your man matches these (in which case, by all mean please contact me), I am afraid it is just a case of two CS creeps sharing similar behaviours and background.
This is why I joined CS a couple of years ago and then left before actually participating actively. After taking wary steps and finding nice contacts and encouragement I received a request from a man, who turned out to be a most unpleasant person. As I am now older and wiser than this poor unfortunate lady (but I was there …at her age) I declined. My instincts were confirmed when he proceeded to bombard me with unpleasant messages and the whole sorry saga made me leave CS. I can see he is still on here two years later, despite the fact his profile is “hidden”, due I suspect, to his now accumulated negative references.
It would appear that CS STILL do not remove these people who are clearly sexual predators.
As an organisation it is disgusting that stronger measures are not put into practice for the well being and security of its members.
I searched for his profile in this Brazilian database for Academic CV’s; I found his name, and by the profile picture, it really is him: http://lattes.cnpq.br/6131315973253089
Supposing that it is his real identity, just an information to make matters worse: According to the information available on his profile, the guy is on a paid leave, since 2010. Which means he is using taxpayers’ money to go out on a crime spree around the world.
You don’t need to know much of psycology to understand this. It’s almost funny. They are all using the same methods.
Professor, you don’t just need help from a lawyer. . Hope you realise it, and get your help.
This guy contacted me in june 2010. he wrote me in italian, saying he worked at the university in padoa and going to vicenza for meeting a university professor. He wanted to have lunch together and asked for my phone, too. we where supposed to meet but then i was busy and never met him. i got lucky, i guess.
i hope he will be stopped.
This guy contacted me in April 2011. He was trying to get a couch in Brazil but I was busy at that time and could not host. He contacted me again asking for a couch in Tokyo but again I did not host as I dont space in my small room in Japan. 2 times lucky!
According to him, his skype account is ” iloverome.” So be careful if this guy contact you using skype.
Since his employer in Brasil is known, can a complaint be made to that country or his employer about the “accusations” against him from multiple people? At least that will put some heat under him … I am so sorry to hear M’s story …
Someone posted that his employee should be contact about it. To make things clear, he works for Brazilian Government and he would never be fired or have any complains from his boss. He cant get fired according to Brazilian law unless he committed a crime. As Japanese police wont do anything (btw I am brazilian living in Japan and I know who both police and government works), as now no charges were made he wont get in any trouble…
I am terrible sorry for M….
Its a horrible thing to read!!
I just want to comment on someone who write down a comment on the original post page by marina on 2012-01-17 at 10.29 am.
I am one of asian girl who use CS to travel and host stranded strangers on their way. This system based on trust. You can’t really sure about someone real behavior until you spent sometimes with them. And if the person you host showing negative attitude or being disrespect you had the right to kick them out.
I just want to say, no matter what culture differences you had while you’re traveling, when a girl clearly say “NO” then its a NO, period. If you push her over those words then its a rape. Brazilian or not.
Its just made me sick when someone commenting about how Brazilian talk openly about sex and sensual etc… and then its OK to rape a girl based on this? come on, get real! is it in Brazil they did this? when a girl say NO for sex, the guy will force them and its a culture?? oh wow barbaric.
Just think if this is happened to your sister or your mother, what would you feel about?? would you accept the “culture” what so ever reason for them to rape them?
Think with your head and use your heart as well.
I’ve looked on his luggage tags on his suitcase and it said De Angelis so perhaps that is his real name unless he’s using a fake passport…
Below You can find the answer for the questions that Petre and Dave asked me and some of the positive references that i received..
Questions:
1. Can you show us proof that you in fact purchased a train ticket (which you claim we stolen or went missing from your wallet)?
Yes, I can. Please give me your email address.
2. Was that train ticket purchased under your name, and if so with what method of payment and on what date?
There is no name on the ticket and the date is 24th December.
3. Can you please tell us when and how you also purchased a bus ticket to Tokyo
As I wrote, I bought the bus ticket after leaving her house at 1130pm, when she arrived at her house. I took the bus at midnight and I arrived in Tokyo at. 7am
4. Also, why have you not gone to the police to file a claim against M when you realized that your train ticket was missing?
Because i didnt have time ( just 30 min to buy a ticket and take the bus) and I didnt have prove to explain to the police that one girl who hosted me took my ticket when i was sleeping or taking a shower.
@Cristiano:
Keep deflecting as much as you want, focussing on a completely irrelevant part of the story instead of answering the real charges that have been levelled at you by all your hosts.
1. The fact that you purchased a train ticket was never seriously questioned. It is thoroughly irrelevant to the matter. You may have lost it in any manner of ways (assuming you even have).
2. Just like in your alleged “mutual attraction” with your host (which she calls rape), it is your word against her… Except: she has a spotless record of hosting over 30 people without a single complaint, you on the other hand, have been widely denounced as an untrustworthy, lying and aggressive person by every single of your hosts.
3. Moreover: there is absolutely no incentive to stealing such a train ticket in Japan. Assuming as you claim that you had any proof of purchase, you could have easily get a replacement (and anybody trying to claim your ticket would have been arrested). Why in hell would you even think she’d be interested in your ticket?… (unless you felt guilty of something and thought she had good reasons to be angry at you… hmn?)
4. Considering how much of a deal you have made of that alleged “ticket theft” story, your excuse that you were “in a rush”, for not filing a police complaint, is beyond ridiculous… There are buses every hour or so leaving Kyoto for Tokyo. I’m sure you would have taken the time to go to the police, if you had not been afraid they would arrest YOU instead.
I think it is high time you stop putting up these ridiculously unconvincing explanations and come clean: by now, you are out of reach of the Japanese police and will likely not be arrested for your crime… Confess what you did, make a convincing apology and beg for the forgiveness of those you’ve hurt… It certainly won’t erase what you did, but might help clear your conscience and encourage people to move on from your case…
“As I wrote, I bought the bus ticket after leaving her house at 1130pm, when she arrived at her house. I took the bus at midnight and I arrived in Tokyo at. 7am”
And then? What happened in Tokyo and elsewhere?
So, it was the beginning of August in Faro. Although I had a couchsurfing account from 2010, I rarely used it. At this point, I thought I would get involved more openly. I was going to the downtown and asked people in CS thread if anyone was going and left my phone number. I got a message from Cristiano, saying he was in Albufeira(another city in Algarve) and he needed a place to stay in Faro.
I said to him that I do not know if anyone has a free couch, but I could help him find some hosts.
At this point, I was living in a student dorm-small rooms, and having an extra person was not only difficult due to space but was forbidden according to the dorm rules. Since he had a car, he drove to the dorm, and asked if he could use the shower. I personally did not find, and let him use the shower. He also said, he needed some sleep, so he asked if he could sleep for half an hour, which again, I did not refuse to.
He had someone to host him for the next day, but not that day. He did not have her phone number, but just her address. So, we went to a local bar to drink and talk with fellow CSers. His behavior was very cocky. Since no one there was ready to host, I went with him to find the place of his host.(I did not want to trouble someone at midnight, but I wanted to get rid of this guy. I regret this decision). We found the place, and luckily the person. It was a girl, and she spoke Portuguese, so he and her had a conversation which I have no idea of. So, we parted goodbye and I left. The next day, he invited me to go to Tavira(a place in Algarve) with some people which I disagreed because I did not like how he behaved.
A couple of months later, I had a talk with local CSers and none of them had something nice to say about him. I did not like his behavior of –
1. During a point in our conversation, we were talking about finance and I mentioned that since I am a student, I have just the basic living. He started bitching out that my scholarship was too little and he could never live with it. I felt it was a bit rude.
2. He was a two faced person.
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http://www.couchsurfing.org/people/apfelschorle/
Add this up.
Cristiano, you said
” However, after realizing that my train ticket was not in my wallet, I decided to call her. As I didn’t receive any answer, I decided to wait her back since I had shown the ticket to her when we came back to her place.
When she arrived, I asked on the ticket and she was all ashamed and asked me to leave her house. Anyway, I already had plans to catch the night bus (10 hours until Tokyo), if she does not give me back the train ticket (only 2 hours until Tokyo). ”
and
“because i didnt have time ( just 30 min to buy a ticket and take the bus) and I didnt have prove to explain to the police that one girl who hosted me took my ticket when i was sleeping or taking a shower. ”
1. So, you went out, got a ticket and came back to wait for her. So, you had keys to the house all this time? Or did she let you in?
2. This is not even the real issue. I do not think M. would have had to steal your ticket and sell it for a mere 150 euros(this does not make sense because,
a. Japanese people are the most polite I have met
b. M has 30 positive references, and you have a few accounts(with numerous negative references) that you delete repeatedly. Keep away from the CS community.
Heyy Cristiano, are you going to stay or live in Nice/France?
I’ve found a proper host for you 🙂
(at least he does not delete his profile due to negative references!)
http://www.couchsurfing.org/people/pimacha/
Ok then that is enough. Let say all then (did not want say it before because I am a gentleman) because I am starting to be fed up with this story and with all of you that behave like little children and maybe you jealous of me.
1)She really liked me from the beginning and she asked me to go to bed with her!
She said never had a brazilian boyfriend and she knows brazilian are latin lover and powerful sex machine and could not sleep with me in another room because was thinking all the time about me. Keep in mind I am also young and quite attractive so that drove her crazy. So i did make her happy and did not to be unpolite and say not to a girl!
Do not know what happened in the morning in her mind, maybe she felt ashmed and so took my train thicket to make me feel guilty of something … maybe to make me feel guilty that I am so attractive??
2)Now,how many of you had a host or has been hosted by someone you felt attractive and had a night stand? I think more or less all of you, couchsuring is real life like meeting someone out, sometimes you feel attraction with someone and lot of people want and go for it but in the following morning maybe they feel hembarassed because in their culture is not cummon to behave like that. One day when I will go back to Japan ( and I will because I like Japanaise girl), I am sure she will host me again because I sow into her eyes from the fist minute how much she was attracted by my phisical appareance. I know all the girls usually act like that…
@Cristiano:
Please, I beg you: keep writing and indicting yourself with your own words… With a defense like yours, who needs accusers.
You are a narcissistic sociopath and a sexual predator. And every single of your comments on this blog only make this more obvious.
I look forward to your (very unlikely) return to Japan: we will all go and have a lovely chat at the local police station. Let’s see how you enjoy the hospitality of the Japanese prison system.
omg.. this guy is sick, he needs psychiatrist!
I am wondering whether his wife and children know that he behaves like sex-maniac in the serial rapist case instead of FAMILY man in his pictures
I highly doubt anyone would think you’re attractive, Cristiano. I don’t want to make it a public issue of your unattractiveness and unhygienic practices, but you must be delusional to think that you drove her crazy with your sexiness. I’m just grossed out.
Cristiano,
I’d call you an ass, but that would be an insult to donkeys. A pretty face can’t fix an ugly attitude, and that puts you somewhere between somewhere between sewer slime and diarrhea in attractiveness. Karma is a bitch. Have fun growing old and dying alone!
Ok Dave
seeing your comments and offensive posts and seeing you as a kind of macho man in defense of the ladies that wanted to punch my face so much let make a deal then: let stop talking and writing bla bla bla and let meet you and me in a neutral city.
Choose a city you like more in Europe and let meet there. Let see how macho you are then and if you still a man with a bit of honour and courage or can joust write and hide.
…A part being attracted I am also an amateur trained brazilian boxer so let enjoy more, wanna hear you to scream please stop and believe me you will do it after 20 seconds!!!!
guys, did anyone contacted his ”family” in brasil??
OMG this guy is really, really sick! Never intended to make any comments here but after read his last reply I was totally grossed that I can’t help myself not to write a comment here.
I followed this whole stories from very beginning.
What an idiot, can’t believe that he’s a proffessor with such an attitude!
@Cristiano:
What do you think this is? Some joke or a circus act we are pulling for your own enjoyment? (well, obviously you do, judging by your actions and words)
As much as I would love to punch your face in, this is certainly not what I want: I want for you to sit in a police station and face the girl you claim was “so wildly attracted to you” when she confronts you and has you hauled away for rape. No “neutral city” bullshit: come back to Kyoto and let’s see how that goes for you.
But we both know this is not going to happen, because while you have no problem assaulting 20-year-old Asian girls half your size, when it comes to facing actual consequences of your actions, I think we all know the kind of coward you are: leaving the place before anybody has time to confront you.
By all means keep writing that deluded narcissistic drivel for the world to see. I don’t think I could indict your character better than you do yourself already.
bla bla bla as always…
1) I am attractive you not (lok at your hair!)
2) you are so jealous of my attractiveness beacuse girls jump on me and want me. That drive you crazy. I think you stay in Tokyo but no one has even been attracted by you and you never had any story. Perhaps you are still vergin…
3)At the moment I am in a couchsurfer apartment drinking wine with a very attractive girl that is hosting me, sitting in the sofa with me and she is reading all this and she is smiling all the time because she knows me from another time I staied with her and is saying that all of you seems very mad with a invendet and fantasy story instead of me that I am a wanderful person!
Cheerssssssss
ps she is very cute:)
@ Cristiano:
hmm.. Schizophrenia symptoms, you shouldn’t belong to any communities but land yourself in therapy.
I think Christiano needs to see a doctor, however,he said something about being attracted to or a host or guest.True, actually a few weeks ago i had several sexual encounters down here in Kampala with a girl from America(Canada) , but this was because we were attracted to each other,however.If there was no connection between me and her, then i would never have done anything, but just the fact u forced your self on M, its barbaric and u actually owe an apology to the good couch surfing community, and stop reasoning like an educated fool.Thanks Dave for throwing light to the community
I can’t believe this guy’s answers…
@Cristiano: trying desperately to put everything on the account of your (so-called) good looks is really pathetic. Grow up man! First, you’re not living in a porn movie where women cannot resist you “Latin lover” charms! The way you appear so far only makes the rape story more and more plausible.
PS: are you mistaking the so-called “smile” from your couch-surfing host with the look of fear you inspire her?
First I wasn’t going to write, although I felt very sad about this story and by the fact that he’s from my beloved country – though that has nothing to do with his behaviour – but this Cristiano guy is so insultingly idiot besides being an absolute jerk that it demands some cursing on him. Of course none of this will help on what’s already done to M. and the other people he insulted and mistreated, but at least I’ll feel relieved.
It’s so obvious that this guy is delusional and needy, like someone who really lacks something in life – pride, self-respect, tenderness, love. It’s by no means a try to explain or justify what he’s been doing, just wondering about. And what’s even more pathetic is that he claims being a teacher and having so many degrees but his English is really ridiculous, full of mistakes and flaws.
Replying to someone who said something about Brasil being a place where this kind of attitude is tolerated (because of another person’s post stating that there was a culture shock) – it’s not! Like elsewhere, there are people of all kinds and origins, but mainly it’s a country where respect towards others is highly prized. And the most basic kinds of respect are not harming others and acknowledged self-responsibility, in my opinion. Anyway, this is something inherent to his (lack of) behaviour, not to brazilian culture, believe me.
I hope he’s detained somehow and also CS becomes a danger-free environment, protected from this kind of pervert.
Cristiano,
You are trained boxer, and you need a neutral city? Come to Europe, while I am still here, and lets sort this shit out.
I am neither trained, (somewhat skinny, and in need of muscles) nor am I a “hunk” as you mentioned you to be. So, it will be a nice fight.
I talked with K(the girl who hosted you), and guess what, she does not have nice things to say about you as well. I feel sorry that I helped you find the host.
“I did not want to say it before because I am a gentleman”- Do you even know what the g in gentleman belongs for?
Writing here will not bring out any consequences, but, believe me, someone will hunt you down.
Thanks for taking the time and effort to keep this going, Dave. It’s especially nice when a man makes things like this his business – M. has a good, gentlemanly friend in you.
is this guy rapist-christiano, really so retarded or is this some kind of severe joke? his posts have to much grammatical mistakes as for the “professor” not to mention the 16 years old boy writing manner of an “an amateur trained brazilian boxer”
Did someone tried to contact Interpol ?
With all the testimony from around the world, it could be enough evidence.
This guy will do it again if we don’t stop him. He clearly need help.
Maybe we should create a kind of “emergency line” via couchsurfing,
if someone is in trouble, he could call or send the adress via sms to someone (an ambasador or someone the community trust) in the city, so he could come to help.
Can someone kick his ass… Cristiano, do come to Malaysia… I’m pretty sure we can arrange some kick ass welcome party for u..
Everybody,
At this point, I just want to point out that the comments made by “Cristiano” on this article and the previous one, are almost certainly all authentic: they are all made by the same person and the IP locations check very exactly the known travel route of this scum (Malaysia, Singapore, Paris and now Rome).
While it is hard not to think these comments are the work of some prankster trying to sound just like a textbook narcissistic sociopathic sexual predator, they are really his…
I really don t know where to begin with all this!!!
Well, let’s firstly say that his “deeds” have now been know to Greece as well.
Now, I think Ana’s comment here and Ying’s story tell everything about this delusional pervert. Personally, I need nothing more to hear. We all know guys like this, more or less -you know, bragging, womanizers, who actually have no real chances with girls exactly because of this behaviour- in our personal life and I can certainly believe M’s side of the story. The whole argument of his that “I accused her of a stolen train ticket so she accused me of raping” is just outrageous, a girl would never want to attract the light of publicity with such a story!
This guy is certainly dangerous and needs to be tracked down. Maybe – if its really him who makes these comments here, cause they re just unbelievable- his IP could be tracked down and he could be caught.
Also I want to congratulate Dave for his superior work on this and his way of thinking, logic, and calmness when dealing with this lunatic. I wouldnt be able to do it, I think.
As for this guy, if its really him commenting I say again, Cristiano your comments are such of a 15yo boy and the manly thing to do would be to go and confront Kyoto police, not kill Dave cowardly with a gun in a European city where it would just be the two of you [even though we could have police stand by there and Dave with an armed police vest, so that s not a very bad idea after all]. ALSO, THE MANLY THING TO DO WAS TO HAVE YOUR CS PROFILE OPEN, SO ANYONE COULD SEE THOSE REFERENCES AND JUDGE FOR THEMSELVES. Having it deleted, admit it, it makes you seem a lot more suspicious, doesnt it???
After all, WHERE IS YOUR BEAUTIFUL GIRL, SMILING NEXT TO YOU, GONNA LEAVE HER WONDERFUL POSITIVE EXPERIENCE FOR US TO SEE???
And , p.s., as your IQ is probably limited, yes, the above line is called “Sarcasm”.
For crying out loud. I’ve met this guy, unfortunately, and although I don’t usually like to make comments/judgments on people’s looks…since he brought it up in this case, I will. He is NOT attractive in the least, and him basically claiming to be God’s gift to women is yet another indication that he is at least somewhat delusional and doesn’t understand how to appropriately relate to and interact with people, especially women.
I can’t even express how sorry I feel about this whole story, to the many csurfers who had their trust in the community injured, and especially for M.
I guess is pretty clear by now that this person is insane, so I suggest we stop trying to argue with him. Having serious mental issues though, does not justify the horrible act he committed. This is an absurd, and he can’t just get away with it. Not only for justice with M., but also because he represents a threat for unaware future hosts.
I’m contacting his professional/academic connections based on the data he left online, first to verify if it’s really him (if it’s not, the real Cristiano must be warned anyway), and then to let them know all this evidences.
I’d like also to make clear for Fika and others that might have had the same impression, that this is NOT acceptable in Brazil. Far from it, it is a very serious crime punished with up to 10 years of jail. Please don’t confuse brazilian open way with the sick behavior of this guy.
@Crafty: this is a very nice idea, is there currently any action in this way on CS?
@Pedro:
Agreed 100% with everything you wrote. His case clearly belongs to the annals of psychiatry and there is little point engaging him any further.
Also agree about the need to verify that it is not a case of identity theft, although the amount of corroborating evidence (photographs, public records etc) makes it difficult to imagine that such a barely-functioning moron could really pull off a fraud of this magnitude (then again, it is also hard to imagine him making it through high school, let alone post-grad research). I have also contacted people in order to try and verify his identity and claims and will update this page when/if I get any feedback.
I posted a link here to the Roma CS group. Maybe someone can translate to Italian..
To all my dear CS friends!
Thank u all for ur wonderful response to this blog. Please keep any useful info coming in. I will pass them on to Interpol.
I can confirm that Cristiano is under the surveillance of Interpol. He will be caught if or when he commits a further criminal act.
Cristiano is now in Rome & I believe the CS community has been warned. Good work!
Somebody mentioned that Cristiano is known for his deeds in Greece. Would anyone care to share any knowledge of confirmed behaviour there?
I called the immigration chief of Malaysia & made a formal request to deny him entry to this country. If anyone do that in another country please do so.
Somebody mentioned contacting his family/employer in Brazil? Has anyone had any luck there?
Many people mention that Cristano belongs in a mental hospital. If he is the animal he is then he belongs in a zoo perhaps?!?! Give him a job feeding tigers?!?!
I think we should all feel compassion for M & wish her a speedy recovery from her trauma over her ordeal.
The true hero here is Dave & he is doing a wonderful job & esp for remaining composed in the face of the ridiculous & inflammatory comments made by Cristiano. If there were an award for the CS of the year, then Dave gets my vote! Meanwhile I’ll get to Japan soon & buy him a beer!
Regards, Dan
Good to know Daniel. This guy messed with the wrong people. CS is not only about hospitality, but in my opinion a group of great and engaged people… Dave gave us a perfect example of that!
I hope I can get to Japan one day and grab that beer with you1 🙂
For what it’s worth, i’d say he even lied about him being a “professor”.
First of all, a PhD student is not a professor, at most he can himself a “research assistant”.
Second, even a PhD student must have publications (a professor should have a few dozens) and he appears to have none, or at least none that can be searched in any scholarly database.
In his bibliography section on the page:
http://buscatextual.cnpq.br/buscatextual/visualizacv.do?metodo=apresentar&id=K4202794P9&idiomaExibicao=2#LP_Organizational%20Intelligence
he cites 3 entries, but none of them is complete and in a proper bibliographical format.
So in the best case this self appointed “professor” is a budding PhD student.
Hello all..as a Brazilian/American who now lives in brazil, i can assure all of you that this guys behavior is SICK and not typical of brazilian men. i live in a favela and if he ever acted this way where i live, he would have been strung up by the balls and beaten to death as we do not tolerate this disgusting behavior. RAPE is not tolerated in Brazilian law!
I highly doubt that this guy is actually a professor. i think its all lies or he is using somebody elses profile in the website. his english sucks bad and even the way he writes is like a 15 year old kid.
And if this guy is really married with a child, why would he be writing like he is publcally on the internet. If he is married, does his wife know about his unfaithfulness?
Or, how he likes to rape women, so easy for him to use the excuse that women “want” him. How can a woman fight back? Most women can not as they dont have the strength.
The more I read these posts the more this “monster” disgusts me. [physical threat removed: I understand your anger, but let’s keep this civilised… — Dave]
@Cristiano
I hope you can find the patience and integrity to read this carefully!
Know that you are not immune to Karma or any other of the natural laws! All of this shit is gonna catch up with you one way or another and I think that deep down you know it too, so the sooner you stop running away like a coward and own up to your wrongdoings, the better.
If you had even a miligram of pride, honour or self respect within you, you would be true to yourself and accept responsibility for your disgraceful actions instead of continuing to deny them like the unfortunate, unscrupulous coward you present yourself as. It’s vermin piece of shit like you that ruin a great community like CS for so many, and that’s just enormously selfish of you, arrogant asshole filho de puta! With any luck you’re gonna be paying for this for many days to come: both professionally, socially and on a personal level if you have it within you to repent.
You deserve to fall hard, and if faith holds strong, you will. My only regret is that disgusting scumbags like you can somehow seem to evade punishment and repercussions for even the most filthy deeds, and they often manage to get away with the worst crimes of all. I, like anyone else with even a minimal sense of justice, can only hope and pray that this will not prove to be one of those cases.
Thank you for reading, ‘Professor’.
Hi guys now members of the CS community in Brazil now we knowing what happened and we are sending to all communities in Brazil and pics and translation about this case we already know all about Cristiano de Angelis, now he knows what will happen to your life when it falls in the news media attention in Brazil. We have entered into contact with interpol and they will handle the case.
To all my dear CS!
I am so happy to see more & more Brazilians adding threads to this post. This is a wonderful aspect of this post, that u are as horrified, appalled & disgusted as the people from the many nations already. & it proves that Brazilian culture is not about machismo & being “God’s gift to women”. I have spent a lot of time in the most beautiful country of Brazil & I have most certainly never seen the kind of behaviour that Cristiano displays. & I was staying with local people before I had ever heard of CS.
Which leads me to the next point; is Cristiano really Brazilian? Having spent months in Brazil I don’t remember seeing a Brazilian as unattractive. He claims women fall at his feet begging them to sleep with him. I think most women would find a dog’s breakfast more appealing & I certainly find the back of a bus better looking. U Brazilians rock; the most gorgeous women in the world, bar none. I was always thinking life is so unfair; why couldn’t I have been born Brazilian? I would have been really handsome & living amongst women so beautiful.
If Cristiano is really Brazilian, why has he travelled the world for so long? Did he rob a bank & is a fugitive on the run with the proceeds? Or another sinister crime? & if he is really married (she must have a dog & a white stick!) why has he left them home so long?
Anyway I think the best course of action is for the Brazilian community to take up this case. U people can get ur police, Interpol, news media etc involved & fire up a huge shitstorm for this guy. His family will know, his employers will know, his friends (if someone as vile as him, tho not having met him….) will know. Bring him back to Brazil, put him thru ur courts & have him incarcerated. Rapists are despised in prison so he is not in for a fun time.
Love to the worldwide CS community,
Daniel