Fantastic! Let the testing begin and the spam end!

Sorry Mog, but I do not understand what you mean: “what am I removing”… huh??
anyway, the blacklist allows you to add/remove entries, just the same as before, but in a nicer cleaner way. Thing is, you probably won’t have to use it, SK2 will use it by itself once it’s finished. but it’s there in case you need it or if you wanna control what’s in there…
The log dump is purely for debug purposes, it won’t be in the final version…

cheers

Installed fine, hopefully it is working. If you want to output stats go to http://mattread.com/archives/2005/03/spam-karma-2-stats/

Just installed.
Click here to manage Blacklist, I do and I see “Cannot load sk2/spam_karma_2_plugin.php.” No other messages.

Spam Karma 2 Simple Digest plugin

I have been running Spam Karma 2 Alpha on this site for the past few days and it seems much better at catching spam than the original Spam Karma including catching all the trackback spam that had been slipping through. I was however missing the digest…

I would like to be able to approve false positives as comments instead of only having the option to “remove” them.

SK2 seems to be working great, it’s catching a lot of stuff. However, for some reason the stats aren’t being updated. It just keeps showing 4 sent to hell and 8 sent to purgatory. Any idea why it’s not being updated?

Thanks for the quick response! I redownloaded and extracted. The result is the same for me, unfortunately. It might have something to do with me using the latest svn 1.5.1-alpha? I know that I get incomplete generations in many other parts of wp as well, but never sk2. Someone suggested it might have something to do with BOM?

Yes !!! This will be so great when this is done

I installed the plugin (2.0 pre-alpha 9) and the setup worked, however when I try commenting, the thing locks me out. The result is this:

Sorry, but your comment has been flagged as spam by the alpha version of the spam filter running on this blog: this might be an error, in which case all apologies. Your comment will be presented to the blog admin who will be able to restore it immediately.[Debug note] Here will go a very *nice* message explaining why you haven’t been deemed worthy of commenting.

I tried clearing tables and redoing the plugin, as well as disabling all plugins, yet it still does the same thing. Is it the plugin or is my IP cursed?

I had SK2 on the test blog but wasn’t getting much in the way of comments so I enabled it on my regular blog. I noticed on normal settings a few spam comments got thru but it was very easy to blacklist the domains. Much better interface than SK1, and I am using WP1.5, yesterday’s nightly.

I have installed it and when I try to go to options, I get the following:
Fatal error: Call to undefined function: get_plugin_page_hook() in /usr/local/psa/home/vhosts/kinuk.co.uk/httpdocs/blog/wp-admin/menu-header.php on line 43

I’ve replaced the menu-header.php file with the one from Eric Anderson and it doesn’t seem to make a difference. I used the original menu-header.php and that doesn’t make any difference either. Is there anything that I can do?

The 2.0 alpha plugin activates but then I get this error message when I go to configure it under Options:

Fatal error: Cannot instantiate non-existent class: sk2_referrer_check_plugin in /home/exogeno/public_html/wp-content/plugins/SK2/sk2_core_class.php on line 294

I’ve had this version installed for about two weeks now, and I just want to commend you (and everyone involved) on a job superbly well done. I haven’t had one false positive since upgrading from SK1…though, I notice that my logs are insanely filled (there are like 20 entries at time for creating a single blacklist entry). I’m not so sure if it’s a bug, but I thought I’d mention it. Again thank you!

Just installed this plugin, I hope it proves better than the capcha I’ve been trying to use.

Anyway, since I’m not on PHP 4.3, I had to change
sk2_plugin_class.php line 46 from
$this->{__CLASS__}();
to
$this->{sk2_plugin}();

I _think_ that’s the correct change, based on the PHP4 documentation of get_class().

Oh, and I had to turn off open_basedir, but I believe that may be a bug in 4.1, since the file’s definately _within_ the open_basedir tree.

When I install the plugin, and activate it that part goes fine. However, after I go and click on the options for it, I get nothing but a blank page. Any suggestions?

-DR

I also get a blank page under the options part – any ideas what you did to fix it please.

Strangely my problem at comment 25 above turned into this “blank page under options” problem that other people have seen. This morning I installed the karmapress 1.5.1 and re-installed SK 2.0 alpha. Now when I go to options/SK2 it says:
Fatal error: Cannot instantiate non-existent class: sk2_anubis_plugin in /home/exogeno/public_html/wp-content/plugins/SK2/sk2_core_class.php on line 294

Sir, I was using wp 1.5.0 and follow the instruction to upgrade to 1.5.1 which was downloaded from link above, I can install it and SKII well . but my admin page got some lines of display which I don’t know how to fix it.
Will they effect my usage? or any other function?
can you tell me how to fix it?

following is the messge i got now
————————————–
} } else { if ( preg_match(‘|\.php$|’, $file) ) $plugin_files[] = $file; } } } if (!$plugins_dir || !$plugin_files) { return $wp_plugins; } sort($plugin_files); foreach($plugin_files as $plugin_file) { $plugin_data = get_plugin_data(“$plugin_root/$plugin_file”); if (empty($plugin_data['Name'])) { continue; } $wp_plugins[plugin_basename($plugin_file)] = $plugin_data; } return $wp_plugins; } function get_plugin_page_hookname($plugin_page, $parent_page) { global $admin_page_hooks; $parent = get_admin_page_parent(); if ( empty($parent_page) || ‘admin.php’ == $parent_page ) { if ( isset($admin_page_hooks[$plugin_page]) ) $page_type = ‘toplevel’; else if ( isset($admin_page_hooks[$parent]) ) $page_type = $admin_page_hooks[$parent]; } else if ( isset($admin_page_hooks[$parent_page]) ) { $page_type = $admin_page_hooks[$parent_page]; } else { $page_type = ‘admin’; } $plugin_name = preg_replace(‘!\.php!’, ”, $plugin_page); return $page_type . ‘_page_’ . $plugin_name; } function get_plugin_page_hook($plugin_page, $parent_page) { global $wp_filter; $hook = get_plugin_page_hookname($plugin_page, $parent_page); if ( isset($wp_filter[$hook]) ) return $hook; else return ”; } ?>

problem pointed out couple comments before [#35] is very easy to fix:
each plugin should call $this->register_plugin(); at the end of the file [after all class declarations], in other case you’ll see error msg about non-existant class.

btw, nice work man, thx :>

Hey all – I’ve installed the WP 1.5.1 and SK2 on my domain and it seems like all is working. The only thing that isn’t working is the tabs other than the main SK2 options tab. It’s catching spam and sort of mailing me the reports, but when I try to access any of the additional tabs (recent spam harvest, approved comments, etc), I get this error:

Warning: Unexpected character in input: ‘‘ (ASCII=12) state=1 in /usr/local/dh/cgi-system/php.cgi on line 2966

Parse error: parse error, unexpected T_STRING in /usr/local/dh/cgi-system/php.cgi on line 2966

Does anyone know what’s causing this? I’m on DreamHost, which means we have to run PHP as CGI, but I’d hate to think that SK2 is unrunnable for anyone who’s on DH.

Beth, I get exactly the same errors on Dreamhost. Obviously, it’s something with how our servers are set up … would be nice to get to the bottom of it though.

I just wanted to thank you for creating such a handy tool for WP. I also wanted to share my very simple plugin that catches empty bodied comments.

I’m not sure why but I have been getting alot of empty comments from anonymous and this plugin pretty much takes care of them.

How do I go about sharing my plugin? should I just put a link to a file here or is there a central repository of plugins?

Thank again.

Bill

Dreamhost, has recently disabled allow_url_fopen. They are reccommending tht curl/a> be used instead. I’m not sure if this is causing the other problems, but it definitely screws up the download_blacklist_update function. Any chance the code could be revised to use curl?

I am stuck, got the latest version of SK2 and it caught a legit comment but when I try to recover it, it won’t let me and the comment is still listed as spam. How do I fix it? I’ve changed settings to easier ones without any effect.

I’d like to make a minor suggestion. When I go to the spam karma options page and view the approved and moderated comments – most of the time I want to jump to the message thread to view it in context – particularly on the approved comments.

However, there isn’t really an easy way to do that from the spam karma page. I end up having to to the manage | comments page then click on view thread.

So could you add a link to view the post (maybe just hyperlink the topic title) on both the moderate and approved comments list page?

Thanks
Bill

This is a really odd bug. Tried various things, such as disabling other plugins, changing permissions on directories and files. It went away on a complete reinstall of SK2, but returned shortly after while editing user levels. Why that would affect SpamKarma2 is beyond me…

OK, I seem to be encountering someone with an unusual trackback scheme that bypasses most of SK. I’ve got three sets of trackback spam hitting my site today. SK is blocking 2 of them handily, but one of them just sails through every time with a 0.5 for “Comment has no URL in content (but one author URL)” — despite the fact that I’ve added the domain to the domain blacklist, the path to the regex blacklist, and their most consistent keyword to the regexp content blacklist. This is also the same site that seems to be bypassing the referrer check. All rules are firing just fine on the other trackback spam runs today.

Armitage: both a whitelist (for IP, content or domain) and a “snowball” (automatic whitelisting of frequent commenters) exist. We are, of course, solely discussing SK2 here (although SK1 did have similar features)…

Have you experienced any false positives with SK2? If so, could you email me in private with the complete info of the comments that were stopped, as well as SK2’s message…

Cheers

Replying to my own post. This seems to be the links are coded as:
[site]/cgi-system/php.cgi?page=SK2/spam_karma_2_plugin.php&sk2_section=approved

if I replace that end part with something like:
[site]/wordpress/wp-admin/options-general.php?page=SK2/spam_karma_2_plugin.php&sk2_section=spam

It seems to work fine.

Jon, You could probably dig into it some and maybe use curl or fsockopen instead of fopen.

Jon,

I’m on Dreamhost and _think_ I have fixed it. Check it out:
http://www.ushimitsudoki.com/wordpress/archives/2005/04/28/spam-karma-2-dreamhost-and-curl/

could you make “autowhitelist for IPs” as an option? i have lot of commenters using a dial-up-connection and it doesn’t make sense if their IP becomes “white”.

I upgraded to WP 1.5.1, but I keep getting the following error when trying to access the options panel, and at the bottom of comment pages:

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: __class__() in
(blahblah)/wp-content/plugins/SK2/sk2_plugin_class.php on line 46

Is this a PHP version thing? My hosts are running 4.1.2 (and unfortunately I don’t think they will ever upgrade, they’re pretty useless).

My sk2_logs table now equals the same size as my posts/comments combined. What’s the easiest way of reclaiming the space (for keeping backups nice and compact)

How would I add an email address to a whitelist in sk2 ?

Thanks for your time !

I’m sseeing legitimate comments failing the Encrypted Payload test yet the spam all appears to be passing that test. I’m therefore seeing some false positives and have had to reduce the strength of that test.

I’ve no idea why – checking the comments form reports that both files are OK.

Also, a .me.uk site failed this test which meant that the whole of .me.uk got blacklisted.

i found a kind of bug with the “second_change”.

in spam_karma_2_plugin.php around line 867 there’s:

$location = str_replace($_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'], “”, dirname(__FILE__)) . “/” . sk2_second_chance_file .”?c_id=$comment_ID&c_author=” . urlencode($sk2_core->cur_comment->author_email);

this builds a wrong url for the captcha-fallback.
people are redirected to: http://www.foo.bar/abc/abc/wp-content/plugins/SK2/sk2_second_chance.php?….
but it should be:
http://www.foo.bar/abc/wp-content/plugins/SK2/sk2_second_chance.php?….

the directory where my WP is located is double. any fix or workaround?

I have had a few false positives,

-19.5
0.5: Comment has no URL in content (but one author URL)
-20: Encrypted Payload missing from form.

I’m guessing it has something to do with my very old (from the b2 days) comment page. Is there some hook I need to ad in? I did a few searches on this site and google and found no answer.

Actually, it just got my entire account suspended… seems as though it was getting stuck in an infinite loop. I was running 2.0 pre-alpha 9.

My helpful hosting support team has this to say about what was happening:

Unfortunately we werent able to get much of a snapshot of the system as it was going down as the load on the server had increased by so much, preventing us from doing much, but i do know that your site had multiple connections to the MYSQL server at the time the server went down. It seemed the second time this happened during the night the call was to the following URL (but I cant guarantee that this is what increased the load so much):
httpd [www.webfroot.co.nz] [/wp-admin/options-general.php?pageSK2/spam_karma_2_plugin]

For anybody with the “encrypted payload missing” read the following:

I’m running Wordpress 1.5 but am still using a 1.2 theme, so it doesn’t come with the necesary hooks required.

It’s really very easy to fix. First (optionally) disable this check in Spam Karma settings so you don’t see any more false positives whilst doing the editing – you can re-enable it later.

Secondly, edit wp-comments.php in your site root. Find the line saying

<form action=”<?php echo get_option(’siteurl’); ?>/wp-comments-post.php” method=”post” id=”commentform”>

Just below it, add:
<?php do_action(“comment_form”); ?>

Save and upload and check your comment form for hidden inputs starting with sk2. Presuming it’s all working you can then re-enable the check and all will be good again.

Appologies if the html above gets filtered by the comment form. And thanks to Dr Dave for his hints on getting it working.

Hi there,

I think there are some conflicts with WP 1.5.1 comment moderation and Official Comments: http://inner.geek.nz/archives/2005/01/12/wp-plugin-official-comments/

When I post a comment as a regular punter my post is released to the site even if moderation is set.

Any fixes?

Many thanks

I’m crying here First SK1 starts eating everything as spam, now SK2 just shows me a blank options page on 1.5.1 official Anyone help? Pleeeease?

I would love to know more about what people are doing to get SK2 to NOT work. I just installed it and it has worked fine.

Maybe I’m not using 1.5.1 (just 1.5 perhaps?)

Now, I don’t have the checkbox checked:
“Before a Comment Appears: An administrator must approve the comment (regardless of any matches below)”

I left it unchecked because the SK2 documentation somewhere said to leave it unchecked (or at least that is how I interpreted it).

Is this the setting your talking about Simon?

I’m only asking so I know how to avoid breaking my currently working copy – particularly if I update WP or decide to change WP settings.

My only concern is that if I get some juvenile saying certain swear words etc that they will go straight to the comments page etc.

Keep the folder structure within the “SK2″ folder intact. The final result should be “/wp-content/plugins/” containing the 13 files from the SK2 folder, plus the folder “sk2_plugins”.

Je viens de l’installer, et rien que de parcourir les quelques pages, je ne peux que me dire “le truc de malade!”
Maintenant, j’attend le spam de pied ferme
Merci!

Hey! I posted a while ago about how one of the alphas (9?) I couldn’t get to work on my blog. The result was only the blank page. I had been keeping up with the svn’s and it was still bad. Finally, I tried the Karmapress and it worked like a charm. Since then, I’ve been keeping karmapress up to date with svn, and a few days ago, I got via svn the final 1.5.1

And today I updated to 2.0b1, and again I’m faced with the blank page. I read the troubleshooting and moved the files to the plugins root but it didn’t help. I downloaded a fresh 1.5.1 from wordpress.org and installed sk2 but it didn’t work. I deleted all the sk2 tables in mysql but it didn’t help.

So now I’m stuck with no sk2 again. I’m sorry; I’m such a pain

Thanks so much!

Will SK2 beta 1 run on a two week old 1.5x nightly?

Hey all – I’m hoping you can help me. So far, SK2 seems to work well, but it has done something ‘odd’ to my comments – or rather, a post and its comments.

For some odd reason, one of my posts can not be viewed other than on the main page anymore unless you’re logged in as the admin. If you’re logged in as the admin, then it’s there, and no problems.

If you’re not, you click on the title and it takes you to a page that says “Sorry. No posts matched your criteria.”

Now, you may be saying: “what makes you think this is SK2’s issue?”

Well, this error appears at the bottom of the comment page that I can see when I’m logged in:

Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /home/abd/public_html/sitename/blog/wp-content/plugins/SK2/spam_karma_2_plugin.php on line 916

So — any thoughts?

SK1 and SK2, on different installs of WP will live together just fine in the same DB.
They won’t be able to share their blacklist, as the format used is different (but different versions of SK2 between themselves, will).

I’ve tried to make the theme I’m using (Manji2, if it matters…and yes, I’m aware of Rin, but I do not like it as much) “compatible” with Spam Karma. I cannot, for the life of me, find a “wp-comments.php” file. I have a wp-comments-post.php in my root, and then the comments.php in the theme folder in wp-content. I can’t find “/wp-comments-post.php” method=”post” id=”commentform”>” anywhere in either file.

What am I doing wrong?

By the way, I really love the way Spam Karma 2 looks in the admin panel. Great job!

Dave, I re-installed the upgrade for WP 1.5.1, and now your plugin works as intended. I don’t know why it didn’t work right the first time, all I can think of that would have made a difference is some quirky PHP-5 thing going on at the time I upgraded from alpha to beta on spam karma 2 + there was some strange things happening with the upgrade as I later found out thru reading the support blog (headers and such, which I found the updated file for late last night and installed).

All is fixed now.

Nevermind about the above error, I have solved the problem. I took the current classic comments.php and modified it. All is working now.

Bruce,

I don’t know what you did — I had the exact same error with a WP Theme I had “ported” to 1.5.x. When I looked at the differences between the comments.php from the classic theme from 1.5.1, the “classic” theme lacked the do_action hook.

When I disabled the do_action hook, that error went away.

I have no idea why SK2 is having an error with the sk2_settings object and my theme. If there are themes that definitely have the do_action hook and work with SK2, please give me a pointer. Heck, the “default” theme in WP 1.5.1 doesn’t have the do_action hook.

Geoff, you are correct. I added the do_action hook to the comments.php and it didn’t work. So I just copied the current 1.5.1 comments.php from the classic theme and added back in my comment numbering ID and style. Works fine.

Has anyone else had problems with 404 errors being thrown up when SpamKarma2’s Spam Warning Message or Second Chance (Captcha) screen should be displayed?

I was doing some testing and when I try to submit a fake spam post (with three links in it), I don’t get the warning message, I get a 404 error. I did get the warning message once when I submitted a fake spam post with 4 links in it. Also, I’m not even sure if the captcha 2nd chance screen is being displayed.

A comment with four links submittted gets SpamKarma2’s warning message, like it should.

The 404 error and the warning message are both appearing at:

/wp-comments-post.php

Anyone have any ideas on where to begin?

Is anyone here … or is there somewhere else I should be to discuss this?

Is a valid entry for the “regex entry blacklist”:

gregg|matt|jimmy|karren

And will this prevent comments from containing those names from appearing if I set SK2 options for Blacklists to strong? And the value for that blacklist entry to 100?

thanks

First and foremost: if you use RegEx’s, be extra careful! and do some extensive testing (with the “approve logged-in users” filter disabled), as it is super-easy to kill all your comments with a bad move.

Now, for the format: it is the regular RegEx format, with *delimiters*… the way PHP requires them. PHP doc has some info on delimiters, Google will have tons of stuff on regex in general (but if someone feels like adding a quick page to the Wiki, please do )
To make it very short, all your regex’s must be between a unique character that acts as a delimiter, for example, you should input your example above as:
#gregg|matt|jimmy|karren# or /gregg|matt|jimmy|karren/ etc. (I recommend using ‘#’)

You need to escape special characters (e.g. ‘.’ becomes ‘\.’), but do not escape twice, as you may be inclined to if you have experience using RegEx in PHP (SK2 does the second escaping for you).

Re. error display, I agree, it shouldn’t show to the end-user… will be back working on code at the end of June…

Cheers everybody

@Eddie:
I believe this error means that sk2 will not work correctly as some of the plugins will not be able to run. Looking at the code around that line in the sk2_functions.php file the error is because you host does not allow url fopen and does not have the curl php extension installed. This means that any of the plugins that check external pages such as the “TrackBack Referrer Check” will not work correctly – you can disable this plugin within the sk2 options page and rely on the other checks if you want.

The best solution is to find out if you host will allow one of “url fopen” or “curl”.

Hello,

I am using SK2 b2 on WP 1.5.1.1. It works fine.

But I found that only trackback/pingback spams are kept in “recent spam harvest”, normal comment spams just disappear(I knew there are comment spams by looking into apache log).

Why?

I am not scared of that feature – but I wish it worked for me. I get the following error:

Failed to purge comment spam entries.
Query: DELETE `newsblog_comments`, `newsblog_sk2_spams` FROM `newsblog_comments` LEFT JOIN `newsblog_sk2_spams` ON `newsblog_sk2_spams`.`comment_ID` = `newsblog_comments`.`comment_ID` WHERE (`newsblog_comments`.`comment_approved` = '0' OR `newsblog_comments`.`comment_approved` = 'spam') AND `newsblog_comments`.`comment_date_gmt`

This might be down an old version of MySQL running the on the server - have you come across this?

Your plugin is the bee’s knees!! It has caught all my spam (550+ in like 4 days)!! keep up the absolutely FANTASTIC work!

Elana,

It’s working. The code that displays the warning is now incorrect and needs to be commented out. It’s simple to do, if you want.

See:
http://www.ushimitsudoki.com/wordpress/archives/2005/04/28/spam-karma-2-dreamhost-and-curl/

Dave,
I am installing SK2 on my fresh 1.5.1.2 site using the Dimension 2k theme. I ran the compatibility check and got the following:

“URL http://www.davereed.org/wordpress/2005/06/16/test/#comments : Could not find Payload in comment form. Your theme is likely not compatible. Make sure you used a URL that contains your blog’s comment form, try again and, if still getting this result, please refer to SK2’s documentation.

“Temporarily disabling form payload check.”

Should I be worried is am I good to go?

dave

Upgrade & Fighting Comment/Trackback Spam

Okay so I’m going to try to upgrade WordPress to 1.5.1.2. If the site goes away and/or totally gets hosed that is why. Wish me luck.
Update: Sweet. Everything is working. The comments showing up in “recent comments” isn’t nec…

Hi everybody,

I was on an extensive break (well, not a break per se, but a break from SK2 coding anyway), so sorry for lack of response to any bug reports you may have sent here or through email. I’m back on it and a new release of SK2 is planned for the end of the week that should hopefully bring even better stability and perhaps the last few small features and tweaking I meant to add… If you have any outstanding issue with SK2 and WP 1.5.1 that I haven’t contacted you about yet, please use the contact form above (under the “about” menu) to remind me…

Regarding the Curl/fopen problem: it’s a very small bug that displays an error message even though things are fine. It’s been fixed and will be in the next release, you can safely ignore it until then…

Settings should be fine on normal, only tweak them if you kinda know what you are doing or have special needs…

Cheers

Dave: I’m having trouble installing this properly. I tried dropping the entire folder into my plugins folder as you suggest & that didn’t work (the plugin didn’t show up in the plugin list to activate).

Then I tried droping the subfolder & various folders directly into the plugin folder. At least the plugin showed up in my plugins list & I activated it. But now, I don’t see spam karma in my Options bar. Is this due to files being in the wrong folder or what do you think?

thank you, for doin’ a great job!

I’m getting the same error as Dunx … “Failed to purge comment spam entries.
Query: DELETE `imho_comments`, `imho_sk2_spams` FROM `imho_comments` LEFT JOIN `imho_sk2_spams` ON `imho_sk2_spams`.`comment_ID` = `imho_comments`.`comment_ID` WHERE (`imho_comments`.`comment_approved` = ‘0′ OR `imho_comments`.`comment_approved` = ’spam’) AND `imho_comments`.`comment_date_gmt`

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ok, the update to beta 3 worked without any problem. but there is still a problem – i forgot to mention earlier.
if i go to “approved comments” and press “run selected filters” then the new karma values are added every time.
an example: the comment has 25 points because the commenter is logged in. now in run the filters again and the comment has 50 points. two times 25 because of being logged in. the same is happening for every other karma.

btw: how can i change this “1120161162 – Commenter granularity (based on email): 310 old comment(s) (karma avg: 5.4884249457827E+37), 3 recent comment(s) (karma avg: 25).”? the average karma has gone mad and i would like to fix it.

just upgraded to Beta3… noticed inthe logs somethign about a greylist and adding blogspot, livejournal, typepad and xanga to it… what’s the greylist? is it sort of an ‘almost blacklist’ that treats comments/trackbacks from there with more scrutiny? are there options for the greylist?

I tried looking in the wiki but couldn’t find anything on this.

otherwise, loving sk2. NO comment or trackback spam has gotten through and I don’t htink I’v ehad any false positives either.

No problem. sounds like great functionality, I just wanted to be clear on what it was since I saw it and it looked knew.

thanks again for SK and SK2. It’s been a godsend.

i’d been having the trouble described in comment 52 and thought i’d drop a line explaining what fixed it:

i upgraded from 1.5.1.1 to 1.5.1.2. this wasn’t directly the cause though, i don’t think.

when i installed 1.5.1.1 (an upgrade from 1.2) i also installed a theme for the admin page. i believe something in that theme caused the errors i saw. when i installed 1.5.1.2, i did what the instructions said: deleted wp-admin/ and wp-includes/. when i logged back in i saw that the layout had changed on the admin pages: i’d zapped the theme i’d forgotten i’d installed.

just a troubleshooting tip: make sure you’re using the default admin pages, not a themed setup.

bonjour existe il un upgrade a partir de sk1 ou faut il tout virer et remettre ??

I’d like to test the captcha-feature to see what they look like
(is the average user that visits my blog intelligent enough to use SK2-captchas?).
Which is the best way to test captchas?

[...] Just got a pop up in sk2 beta 3 saying there is now an update available to sk2 beta 4 So what are you waiting for, go get it ! [...]

[...] I’ve added a new plugin which looks to be the preeminent solution to comment and trackback spam, Spam Karma II. I’ve tested it pretty estensively, and am truly impressed with its abilities; as one example, it blocked a trackback I attempted from the manual trackback pinger that otherwise would have been spam! [...]

Re #156
I’ve got it sussed…

The Advanced Compatibility Check was failing because I have checked the option:

‘Users must be registered and logged in to comment’

in the WP General Tab. If I uncheck it the test reports a pass.

I realise this means I don’t actually need SK at this point, but I just want the re-assurance it is all set to go if I want it.

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Can someone explain to me the ways you can use the SK blacklist? I have a nasty troll with unlimited IP access. I know how to use domain & IP blacklist. But what are the other options like Regex, Regex content, kumo & RBL? And is there any way to use them to defend against this jerk? Since he seems to use the same e mail address at least twice, can I add that to the SK blacklist?

BTW, none of my WP comment settings are working including blacklist keywords, etc. So SK is my only defense.

Dr. Dave in a different comment thread in this blog told me that essentially SK2 ignores all your WP spam settings:

K2 doesn’t really look at email addresses, as they are generally meaningless for comment spam. Indeed, SK2 overrides regular WP spam settings since they would be redundant.

I’m not sure whether he means that SK2 overrides comment moderation settings as well. But I’ll tell you that all of my WP comment settings essentially stopped working too. It’s extremely frustrating. Westi has offered to create a new plugin I requested that will restore the Wp setting for forcing moderation on all new comments.

Personally, I think it was a mistake for SK2 to override comment settings (if that’s what it indeed does). There should be a way to get them to co-exist because WP’s comment settings do important things which SK2’s features don’t.

@David: The SK2 setting “Automatically approve logged-in users above or equal to level” is designed to allow you to auto-approve comments by registered users of a particular level and above. It is not designed to give negative karma to logged in users below this level but rather to ensure that comments by users above that level do no got through any of the other filters wasting computative time – all sk2 filters/plugins have karma levels above/below which they do/do not run so as to not run too many checks when something has been identified as good/bad already.

If you want SK2 to obey the WordPress option “An administrator must approve the comment (regardless of any matches below)” (under Options … Discussion) – Then you can use this sk2 plugin sk2-moderate-plugin which Richard mentioned above. I will be soon extending this plugin to support some more of the main WordPress comment moderation options as I have already offered to Richard.

As for the following comment:

I’m using WordPress 1.5.2. SP2 is “approving” comments that it thinks are not spam. This is not proper behavior, IMHO, for any kind of software, I don’t care how good it is. I’d rather have false positives than comments being posted that I can’t review/moderate first.

The way in which SK2 work is designed based on the fact that once you start getting a lot of comment spam coming in manual moderation becomes a chore and takes up a lot of your time – therefore if the comment passes through the SK2 checks and ends up with positive karma then it goes live straight away – this behaviour stops people double posting because there comment doesn’t appear and will in heated/busy discussions help the discussion flow much quicker – unless you sit infront of you computer 24/7 approving true comments that are sitting in moderation then you will find that enforcing the moderation as you suggest will stifle the discussion heavily.

The most important thing to remember is that if a comment slips through SK2 and ends up live that was spam enure that you mark it as spam using the SK2 admin pages – this way SK2 will learn that the IP used by the spammer and any urls in the comment / url of the spammers website are bad and add them to the blacklist so they won’t slip through again.

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Since an upgrade from my hosting service (probably MySQL), the “Recent Spam Harvest” and “Approved Comments” do not work anymore. I get:

Can’t fetch comments.
Query: SELECT `posts_table`.`post_title`, `spam_table`.`karma`, `spam_table`.`id` as `spam_id`,`spam_table`.`karma_cmts`, `comments_table`.* FROM `wp_comments` AS `comments_table`, `wp_posts` AS `posts_table` LEFT JOIN `wp_sk2_spams` AS `spam_table` ON `spam_table`.`comment_ID` = `comments_table`.`comment_ID` WHERE `comment_approved` = ‘1′ AND `posts_table`.`ID` = `comments_table`.`comment_post_ID` ORDER BY `comments_table`.`comment_date_gmt` DESC LIMIT 30
SQL error: Unknown column ‘comments_table.comment_ID’ in ‘on clause’

(the same manual command in the “mysql” shell leads to the same error)

However, “select count(comment_ID) from wp_comments as comments_table” works fine, the column is present.

Do you know if there is a problem with table renaming in ON clauses? The following seems to work fine:

select a.comment_ID from wp_comments as a left join wp_comments as b on a.comment_ID=b.comment_ID limit 1;

MySQL 5.0.15.

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