So all it took was for me to ask people to keep the conversation on a civilised tone for somebody to take a shot at the Multi-Godwin point.

Maize5: I am afraid you have drawn the wrong conclusions from the, admittedly hyperbolic, treatment given in the original post above… I don’t care what your opinions are: if you cannot formulate them on a public forum without resorting immediately to aggressive stereotyping, you are probably better off shouting stuff in front of your TV set. As far as I know, toyotabedzrock made his comment in a composed manner and didn’t go ad hominem on anybody, I expect you or anybody else to respond in a similar way.

Just don’t classify all or even most Americans as warmongers. It is however very exhausting to deal with those Americans who are, they are loud and seem to have unlimited energy to promote there very misguided views.

Gee, that’s what I get for having some old silly rant featured on a Funneh Website (that and the complete meltdown of my subpar hosting setup)…

People, read the date this was posted on, will you? This post here is four year old. It wasn’t meant to be particularly witty or deep and served no other purpose than venting some frustration at a moronic user handpicked from the weekly dozen who used to send me complaint emails back then. As such, I really have little inclination to open a debate around the content of this post, even less about a not-so-funny-at-all crack alluding to the use of nuclear weapons on civilian population. But feel free to keep arguing on this page (just keep it somewhat courteous): I am all for spirited (if slightly pointless) debate.

For the record, I wrote about the topic in a non-humorous entry elsewhere on this blog:
http://unknowngenius.com/blog/archives/2005/08/06/anniversary/

Actually the 8-point plan is mostly about preventing Japan from aiding Germany. Only those two sentences talk about getting them to attack the US.

You also seem to forget that Germany and Japan were in the process of committing the worst war crime in the history of the Human race.

Also I am not in anyway against Japan, or the Japaneses people. I am lucky to not be old enough to remember any wars before the first Gulf War. I am also not a diehard patriot in anyway, the US has plenty of it’s own faults and isn’t always right in the actions it takes. I also find patriotism to be one of the two major problems in the world today, the other being extremism in any form.

In response to your long-winded, jingoistic, misinformed and racist little post I find myself forced to correct you on a few things.

Firstly, we were intercepting message from the Japanese to their fleets preparing them for the attack at Pearl Harbour. Secondly, the attack was specifically provoked in order to get us in the war. Before I give you the proof of how, I will give you the why. After WWI the American Union’s people went fanatically isolationist. They didn’t want any more of their blood shed in wars between other countries. FDR had also promised in his campaign speeches that it would never happen again. The problem was that FDR knew ahead of time that the Nazis would become a direct threat to the US, but not fast enough. The reason it wouldn’t happen fast enough for their liking is that the Great Depression was really kicking the crap out our union and prior to WWII, wars were a great way to jump-start the economy. As a side note, the reason that doesn’t work anymore is the people have to believe that the war is just, and you have to win it. We haven’t won anything since WWII, and you can look at Korea, Viet Nam, Gulf Wars one and two, the list goes on. What FDR needed was to get us in the war, and get the economy moving.

Now I’ll tell you the how part. FDR commissioned a study to see what it would take to get the Japanese to attack us. This was because the Japanese had just signed a non-aggression treaty with the Germans during the Japanese’s involvement with the Sino-Japanese war. FDR knew the Germans would be too late in attacking us to have a positive effect on the Depression, but the Japanese were right next door and could be provoked if done properly. See, prior to this Japan had been a very close friend of the US. The answer to this request was a response by Lieutenant Commander Arthur H. McCollum and became known as the McCollum Memo. In it, LCDR McCollum give an eight-point plan on how to provoke a Japanese attack on US shores, and spur the US people into supporting a war effort. In fact, McCollum stated, “If by these means Japan could be led to commit an overt act of war, so much the better. At all events we must be fully prepared to accept the threat of war”. This instigation was so well known that when Dewey was running against FDR in ‘44 he found out about America’s ability to intercept Japan’s radio messages, and knew he could use this information to win against the him. Dewey had a series of speeches written to out FDR when Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General George Marshall, persuaded him not to make the speeches. Japan had no idea we’d cracked their codes at this point and Marshall convinced him that his speeches could have completely destroyed the US’ ability to win the war, so Dewey said nothing, and in November FDR was elected president for the fourth time.

This is all besides the fact that the Japanese literally had nothing left to fight back with by the time we dropped the bombs. The Kamakaze missions weren’t for fun and honour, they were volunteers for missions where they would not have enough fuel for a return trip simply because Japan was out of oil. They were at the point of not having anything to power their war, and posed absolutely no threat. Again, this is all despite the fact that we provoked them into attacking us in the first place.

Your blatant ignorance is simply unforgivable in this day and age, and the only excuse is that your racism and patriotism has led you to deny the facts and only believe what makes you more comfortable.

While it was a terrible thing that the US did, I would like to remind you of what happened at Perl Harbor, especially the deception by the Japanese in the days prior to the attack. The killing of civilians, it is estimated that Japan killed more people than Germany, possibly 30 million. Then there was the cannibalism witnessed by POWs. And the very high death rate of American POWs, and the almost 100% death rate of Chinese POWs. Then there was the Comfort Stations. Need I go on. Then there where the experiments on POWs, the Death Ray, a big microwave like device.

Then lets also consider that had the US not dropped an atomic weapon, your lawyer friend would have likely died serving the Emperor as a suicide soldier or from famine. The US has helped protect Japan since. And now you are a economic power in the world.

Don’t get me wrong I wish we didn’t resort to those methods, but it is likely that had we not obtained a complete surrender that your country might have ended up having insurgents running around like Afghanistan. The reason I say that is because of the wiliness of the Imperial soldiers to sacrifice themselves for military gain, and the fact that an invading army will never make enough friends in a country to completely expel extremists.

Alternatively, you could download Dr. Dave’s special version of WordPress (direct from the WordPress CVS) here: http://unknowngenius.com/blog/wordpress/spam-karma/dev/

This guy reminds me of a certain lady in Fiji who wrote to the newspaper about how mad she was about getting SK1’s “bad karma’ message …

I can just imagine the sort of purile and inane original comment that he was trying to post on somebodies blog.. He was probably pissed as he thought it was terribly clever and took him ages to compose.

Perhaps SK has a built in “Stupid-o-meter” that deletes moronic posts as well as potential SPAM comments.. Perhaps you can market this feature???

On another note, why can’t I have my very own troll. I would hug him and pet him and call him Trollie.

Who said once that “Wits are but a glimpse, Evil may last, but only the Word of the Thick and Obtuse will outlive us all?”

Oh wait… I think it was me.
and I think you were the reason I just made that one up, too…

Now, I’m gonna try to make it real easy for you, because apparently, what you make up for in obstination and redundancy, you clearly lack in basic common sense and reading ability:

The reason I initially deleted that URL was not out of some conspiratorial attempt to hide the ugly evidence of my failure, as a software writer. For that matter, and if that can put you at ease: I take entire responsibility for that unwanted interception of a somewhat legit comment and its meaning, with regard to the reliability of the, now wholly obsolete, version of a software I wrote on my free time to help my fellow bloggers. For what it’s worth, actually, I’ll gladly take on the claim that it was purposefully programmed so as to stop your communications, in a vain attempt at raising the collective IQ bar of blog commenters the world over.

No, you see, the reason I deleted that URL, was out of pure unaltered human compassion for the poor miserable soul who exposed such level of aggressive dimwittedness in these emails.

I felt that, while exploiting these exchange for their pure gold entertainment value was within the admittedly very low standards of ethics where I hold this blog, it would be needlessly cruel to give even the slightest clue, as to the identity of its perpetrator: an individual no doubt crippled enough as it is by his inability to express his thoughts in anything else than a half-articulated flavour of aggressive legalese, whose horribly discordant and right-down beastial sounds tends to frighten away humans and animals alike. A pariah, a freak of nature, condemned to drift aimlessly on the blogosphere, irresistibly driven by his animal instincts to try and bite the hand off any creature foolish enough to take pity on his miserable appearance and communication skills.

For all these reasons, I removed both your name, your email and the URL of the blog where your attempt at commenting was thwarted unfortunately stopped by Spam Karma.

But stupidity has no shame, it appears. And you have now come to reclaim your right at being exposed publicly and completely for the utter nitwit that you are.

Yet, I am still not going to insert that URL back.

And you know why?

Well, first of all, because you want it. and I am a mean motherfucker.

Secondly: because whoever else you dropped that pungent brand of corporal expression which passes off as communication in your corner of the world, just doesn’t deserve the publicity, good or bad, of being associated with this pathetic exchange.

To conclude, I’ll quickly draw the attention of our dear spectators over to the fact that there is very little that can be added to your recent comments, without regrettably diluting the pure exhilarating stupidity that oozes out of every other sentence. Such stuff needs to be taken raw and without additives, there’s no other way.

But if you really must get some sort of answer or counter-argument, I invite you to look at you hand (yea, the very thing you use to slap the trained monkey who types your comments on this blog), close all fingers but the thumb and the one right beside it.
Now what you see is what, in our technical jargon, we call a “representation of the number two“. Assisted with that useful concept in making the difference between “first” and “second”, you merely have to fetch a dictionary and look up the definition for “degree”.

You should then be in possession of the all the elements necessary to comprehend this incredible notion we like to call “second degree”, it’s quite brilliant, I assure you (I know it’s a lot to take at a time: ask the monkey, he’ll explain to you).

As for further replies to your increasingly pointless ululations, I reserve the right to stop caring without further notice, despite the simultaneous potential for anger release and good honest fun at a silly person’s expense, depending on the advice of my psychiatrist.